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Post by Marlin on Jun 28, 2009 17:48:22 GMT -5
Part of me wanted my first topic in this area to be Marlin/Coral, since it WAS canon and very sweet (not to mention under-appreciated). But I went for my favorite instead, because I'm dreadfully predictable that way I dunno, I just love the dynamic these two had and think they'd make an endlessly amusing (not to mention sweet) couple. They both bring the best out in each other and really depended on each other. Makes for a great basis for a pairing, in my mind anyhow. Discuss before I start rambling again. I could really go on and on about these two...it's rather saddening, really.
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angel624
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Post by angel624 on Jun 28, 2009 20:59:08 GMT -5
You know...I'm starting to like them together. I blame you, Marlin. XD
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Post by Marlin on Jun 28, 2009 21:32:11 GMT -5
;D Aren't I positively awful?
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Post by Gill on Jun 28, 2009 21:46:16 GMT -5
I dunno how this would work out. I think they'd be a pretty good couple, for the reasons Marlin said above me, they'd be especially sweet couple But somewhere in the back of my mind there's a voice telling me that it'd be wrong because Marlin would want to preserve the memory of Coral in his mind. Idk, what do you guys think about that? ;D
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Post by FoxeyHound on Jun 28, 2009 23:01:44 GMT -5
Gill is right in a way, Marlin would probably still have feelings about Coral and may think that it's wrong.
But then again, he may be able to let go of the past quickly, and if so, Dory and Marlin are a sweet couple!
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Post by YAY on Jun 29, 2009 2:53:41 GMT -5
I dunno, I always figured he'd pull a Monk and never actually be able to commit. And Dory, due to her memory loss, would never actually remember having any romantic interest in Marlin long enough for something to actually happen. It's the perfect pair, but virtually impossible in everyway. It's like... a really tragic love story, about a love that never was, but should have been.
Oh gosh there I go again being all dramatic and what not...
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Post by Marlin on Jun 29, 2009 10:05:40 GMT -5
Hehe, but your drama is fun!
Something tells me if Dory became attached to him in a romantic sense, she wouldn't forget that. She remembered he was her friend all along and knew when he was going to leave her she knew she wouldn't be able to stand that. She'd obviously bonded to him a great deal to compare being with him to being home.
*shrug*
I dunno. Her condition was rather strange for comedic effect.
As for Coral...I'd say he has to come to terms with her death at some point. He must accept that while she's not with him any more, some part of her is in Nemo and by being a good father he's honoring her memory. If he thought having Dory in his life in a partnering fashion was good for the family, then he would still be honoring Coral's memory.
That's my lame thought, anyhoo. That's part of why I'm alright with Dory being in a "close friend" capacity...the actual initiation of a romantic relationship is all sordid and confusing.
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Post by YAY on Jun 29, 2009 18:08:15 GMT -5
OH GOSH NOW I GOT IDEAS AND STUFF.
And it would be fun to read and whut not, a well done romance between the two. I mean, my idea of a romance would be. 'CAUSE I IS SO AWESOME.
But what I meant was that the moment she got a romantic intrest, it would be toward the time where her memory resets- like planting a seed before it can grow. So it would just be too small to be of importance, because she hadn't actually fallen in love yet. Now, if she did ever actually get to love Merlin Marlin, then she would remember. But I can't see that happening, because of, you know, her memory loss keeps on digging up that seed.
But then there's the fact that she's too naive to really understand love, anyways- she has the mentality of a child.
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Post by Marlin on Jun 30, 2009 5:11:18 GMT -5
That's one of the biggest problems with the pairing, in my mind anyhow: Dory's a bit too immature for a serious relationship. But I dunno, the more I watch this movie, the more I see little sprinklings of maturity, such as her, "What is it with men and asking for directions?" line. It sounds more like something a woman would say than a child. But that's just me.
I bounce back and forth on this pairing, really. It works great, but as you said is highly unlikely to ever happen.
...does anybody besides me think the scene where Marlin is giving Dory that long speech about "carrying on by himself" sounds like a typical "it's not you, it's me" break-up speech? I just watched that clip on my computer and I thought of that.
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Post by angel624 on Jun 30, 2009 16:00:59 GMT -5
...does anybody besides me think the scene where Marlin is giving Dory that long speech about "carrying on by himself" sounds like a typical "it's not you, it's me" break-up speech? I just watched that clip on my computer and I thought of that. I immediately thought that the first time I saw the movie. ^^ And, if I ever get back to work on The Corporation, I will going to have a Marlin/Dory pairing. Although, in my own mind, I think Dory needs a father more than a lover. It's so confusing. I like Marlin/Dory as lovers one day, then as a father/daughter relationship the next.
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Post by Marlin on Jul 1, 2009 15:13:34 GMT -5
I know, right? That's about how I feel about them...one part of me is like, 'It'd be sooooo cuuuute <3" and another is like "But not every guy and girl that meet need to fall in love! Familial love is just as important!"
Terribly confusing. It's why I drift back and forth so much between squees and neutrality. And why I've yet to write anything romantic for the two of them. Nothing I write captures it, and I love the relationship they had in the movie. So there you go.
...oh well. I can't wait to read The Corporation! ;D
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Post by YAY on Jul 1, 2009 16:48:14 GMT -5
I don't know, I just don't believe it will ever happen. They're just doomed for eternity to never find love together, and that is what destiny had decided. Not only is their friendship too important to Marlin, it would also be unhealthy for Nemo. He would probably end up despising Dory for replacing his mother. His mother he never knew.
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Post by Marlin on Jul 1, 2009 17:40:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that. Nemo doesn't seem the type to despise, and especially not Dory. The two bonded very quickly. A slight bitterness, maybe. I know I feel a slight bitterness towards all the boyfriends my mom's had, just because I know they won'twork out and I'll be caught in the crossfire somehow. But never because they weren't my dad.
Then again, my dad's not dead, so I cannot REALLY speak for those that have lost parents (my dearest apologies if my interpretation here is off). I can only speak in terms of the attempt to build anew.
Odd thing is, though, as upsetting as it is to see how flawed this pairing is, it's a little inspirational. It's kinda like, "Oh, here are the problems with it, let's find solutions!". As a writer, it's a real challenge. It just means when I finally DO crank out an actual pairing story, it'll be good because I've been thinking about all of this stuff, you know?
Thanks for the real discussion, YAY, it's really helpful! ;D
As I've said many times, I like the idea of both a friendship and love relationship. I honestly just want these two to stick together, because they make a fantastic team.
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Post by angel624 on Jul 1, 2009 17:54:10 GMT -5
Then again, my dad's not dead, so I cannot REALLY speak for those that have lost parents (my dearest apologies if my interpretation here is off). I can only speak in terms of the attempt to build anew. Well, I remember telling my mom i'd be okay if she remarried after my dad died. But, after a nightmare I had (where she made love to her new boyfired, Zeus, who was my age, in my bedroom)...I began rethinking it. If she *did* remarry, he'd probably wnat me to consider him/call him *dad*. I couldn't do that. It'd be a disgrace to the man who saved my life multiple times. So, there you have it. An angle on that situation from someone who's (kinda) lived it. ^^
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Post by Marlin on Jul 1, 2009 17:58:33 GMT -5
Really? My dad remarried and I've never been expected to call my step-mom "Mom". Seems a bit insensative to ask that of you. Hopefully that wouldn't be the case if she ever did.
I was very nervous about answering that part of YAY's post since I lacked the experience, so thanks for weighing in.
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